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  • EB-VoiceImmigration
    02-24 08:50 PM
    Moving to the Faster Lane : Changing EB3 to EB2

    We at the Murthy Law Firm receive many inquiries as to whether it is possible for an individual with an employment-based, third preference (EB3) case to change to the employment-based, second preference (EB2) category. As explained in this article, it is possible for many some people to make this transition. When combined with the potential to retain the priority date from the earlier employment-based (EB) case, this can be a powerful tool for qualified individuals to obtain permanent residence, or the "green card," much earlier.

    EB3 Cannot Simply be Changed to EB2

    Often individuals ask whether their current EB3 cases can somehow be converted to EB2s. They will usually mention that they had enough education and/or experience to meet the EB2 requirements at the time the EB3 case was filed. The answer to this is simply, "No." The EB category of any labor certification-based case is set at the beginning, when the labor certification is prepared and filed. The category depends on the requirements specified in the labor certification. If these requirements are at the EB3 level, then the case is filed as an EB3, even if the foreign national beneficiary may have qualifications in terms of the education and work experience sufficient for an EB2 level job.

    New EB2 Case Filing Based on Minimum Job Requirements

    It is possible for an individual with an EB3 case to have either the existing employer / sponsor or a new employer file a new case in the EB2 category. Of course, the new position must meet the EB2 requirements, and the individual must qualify for the offered position. The starting point must always be with the job requirements, not one's own education and experience. It is the job that must fit within the EB2 category, as the law requires that the employer specify the minimum education and other qualifications for the specific job. Then, of course, the beneficiary must be able to establish that s/he meets the education and experience required for the job.

    New EB2 Filing Permissible with Job Change

    It is not unusual for an individual with an EB3 case to qualify for EB2. This happens when one acquires additional education and/or experience through the years during which the EB3 case has been pending. Over time, people often are promoted into jobs that may meet the EB2 requirements.

    Typically, questions about potentially changing to EB2 come from individuals who have reached the point where they have filed their I-485s. They have waited for a number of years, but are suffering under the enormous waiting times in the EB3 category. Many have used AC21 to change jobs, are advancing in their careers, and now hold jobs that could meet the EB2 standards.

    EB2 Filing can be with Existing or New Employer

    As explained above, in order to move from EB3 to EB2 it is necessary to start over with an entirely new labor certification. This often is filed through a new employer, when an individual has moved to a different job.

    It potentially could be filed through the same employer that filed the EB3 labor certification. This could be appropriate if one obtained a promotion or otherwise moved into an EB2 job. If filing through the same employer, the employee ideally should have completed the minimum years of work experience for the EB2 position before starting work with the current employer. This is because there are legal issues and potential restrictions when relying on the experience gained with the same employer to qualify for the new job. These issues should be analyzed and discussed with an attorney experienced and knowledgeable immigration law.

    Transfer of Earlier Priority Date to New Case Filing

    The greatest benefit to utilizing the strategy of re-filing comes in the potential to retain the priority date from the EB3 case. This option exists if the EB3 I-140 petition has been approved. If so, then it is possible to request retention of this priority date in the later-filed EB2 case. This means that it potentially is possible to transfer the earlier EB3 priority date to the later-filed EB2 case with a new or the same employer. In many cases, this means that the individual could have a current or closer-to-current priority date, thus saving many years of waiting to become eligible for permanent residence.

    There are some issues with respect to retention of the priority date if the I-140 has been revoked. Generally, however, it is the policy of the USCIS to allow the retention and transfer of the earlier priority date if the I-140 petition has not been revoked by the USCIS for fraud or misrepresentation.

    Is Earlier EB3 Filing Made Vulnerable by Filing New EB2?

    Most people inquiring about this option are concerned about any potential risks to their current EB3 cases. There are some procedural options with respect to the final step in the re-filed cases. However, it is possible to process the new case without risk of disruption to the EB3 case. This assumes that all information provided in the course of the prior filing was accurate.

    A new labor certification filing, even if not approved, would not disrupt a prior approval. The same holds true for an I-140 filing. Conversely, approvals of the labor certification and I-140 do not disrupt or displace existing approvals. It is possible to have multiple approvals of labor certifications and I-140s for the same individual. Even when the request to retain the earlier priority date from the EB3 case is granted, the prior EB3 case remains undisturbed. There is nothing transferred or taken away from the EB3 case in the process of requesting that the EB2 case be assigned the same priority date.

    At the final stage, there are options as to how to complete the case. The pros and cons should be discussed with a qualified immigration attorney. It is possible to proceed with the cases essentially in parallel, allowing for two cases and two potential avenues for eventual approval of permanent residence. The best way to proceed depends upon one's situation and, ideally, should be analyzed to consider the risks and options. What is helpful to most people, however, is that they do not have to risk their current EB3 cases to try to move to EB2.

    Conclusion

    At the Murthy Law Firm, we have successfully utilized the strategy discussed in this article for many of our clients by filing for each a new EB2 case with the same or a new employer. While it requires starting over with a new labor certification, for many it offers a significant advantage in terms of timing when the earlier priority date can be retained. MurthyDotCom and MurthyBulletin readers who wish to explore this option further should contact the Murthy Law Firm to help them with this process or for a consultation to determine whether it is appropriate for them.

    Copyright � 2010, MURTHY LAW FIRM. All Rights Reserved




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  • michael_trs
    05-14 10:55 PM
    roseball,
    Ok...ok...I am working as an attorney partime... for myself...kidding.

    joydiptac,
    "may not make the cut easily" - what do you mean?




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  • needhelp!
    05-15 06:22 PM
    co-sponsor = confirmed support, so thats what we want.




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  • ivuser9
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  • ashwinicool67
    04-29 01:30 PM
    If you are the derivative how can they check your salary with your spouse's LCA requirements. I think you will be fine. Check with your lawyer. If you want you can switch to EAD anytime. But once you lose H1 you cannot getback on H1.

    You are missing a point here. I am on H1 through another desi firm. I stayed with them for 3 years and now my extension is coming up.My spouse's PD is May 2006 , his I-140 is approved and luckily he was able to apply for AOS last year during July fiasco. So I was able to apply for AOS as derivative on his 485. But because it is advisable that to maintain non-immigrant status while our AOS is pending I am confused whether to extend my H1 through my employer or use EAD that I got through my spouse. As you all know being able to apply for aos was very lucky opportunity last year and I do not want to mess up my aos application in anyway. I am concerned that if I am not able to respond to RFE in my H1 extension , it will affect my aos if they dig up my past.




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  • spicy_guy
    08-10 06:40 PM
    You can read the details of the bill at

    Text of H.R.5658 as Introduced in House: SKIL Act of 2010 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h5658/text)

    Apart from the provisions mentioned in my previous post, there are other favorable provisions too.

    does it have any impact, if a lot of people vote this bill on this site?
    Also, there is no time lines on when its going to be set for voting in House.



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  • glus
    12-08 10:50 AM
    I think AP can also be mailed to a person who is not in the U.S. If that's the case, you could re-apply for AP once your old expires. Please verify with an attorney.




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  • sidbee
    05-06 10:59 AM
    http://www.usabal.com/seminars/#a2

    Michael Aytes, is one of the speaker in this conference

    Why would IV get invitation to this ?????

    You pay and you attend, and its for employers, not employees..



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  • satyasaich
    08-30 01:12 PM
    Please let me know if i can give Continental air lines "one pass" miles. i think i have around 20000.

    Requesting other members as well to donate




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  • patelkirti
    04-17 02:40 PM
    It's alright abt the red dot. Is there a way I can find out who gave it to me? Just curious!

    Thanks guyz for helping out!



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  • vhd999
    04-27 10:33 AM
    2 bags or 1 - they are check in luggage - not to worry about it until she reaches India and gets a coolie to help her out.
    I have seen many Indian ladies with toddlers, having 3-4 carry on luggage along with strollers - please make sure this does not happen. This is something that they have to hold on to for all the in between stops, and go through so many security checks...........It is painful to watch them struggle, and other passengers end up helping them.


    I agree. I frequently travel to India. Many times, I saw moms with small babies carrying multiple pieces of carry-ons.

    Most of the cases they cannot do without any help.
    Like others, I am happy to give a hand but I feel bad for those small babies crying while moms struggling with the other things at the airport.

    It�s a good idea to not to carry more than one piece when travelling with babies alone.




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  • sreedhar
    09-07 11:42 PM
    Hi Sree, which country immigration are you talking about ? :o
    :D

    I am talking about US Immigration...I clearly mentioned USCIS right.

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  • munnu77
    12-12 06:56 PM
    sorry if i am wrong..
    How can someonw get a result on 140 with in 6 months, whn the waiting period is more thn 1 yr..
    i just dont trust these consultants..




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  • nixstor
    08-08 09:53 PM
    I guess he is trying to lift the sunken spirits of the IV members. But I feel that if SKIL goes through, we will be fine. It all depends on SKIL



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  • p.guptapost
    06-04 10:09 AM
    Hi,

    We paper filed thru about company attorney in May 1st week from Texas. Till now no receipt received.
    Is there any way I can call USCIS to check status without receipt number in hand? Can they track it via SSN or alien no?

    Pl. let me know.




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  • willgetgc2005
    07-31 05:39 PM
    gg_ny/others,


    1) My h1 and my wife's h4 are pending extensiosn with CSC. Will her H4 extension adjuducation be affected by her converting to EAD ?


    2) gg-ny, can you eloborate on this please?

    (have to file new I9 and specify how you could work) . Do you mean she has to file for a new I-94 ? How to go abaout doing it.


    Thanks for your responses.



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  • walking_dude
    12-21 09:35 AM
    I wrote an E-mail to ACLU about the plight of Green Card applicants like a month back. I haven't received any replies (yet).

    ACLU is a leftist organization. It cares only for the proletariat, and not for the 'elite' earning decent wages. We are all 'fatcat capitalists' who can defend themselves, as per ACLU/leftist thinking.

    As a card carrying member of ACLU, all I can say is that I am proud to have the lady at ACLU :)




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  • SL%%
    09-05 02:20 AM
    what's with the repetition of message? ahahahahaha

    Seriously now, if a hospital can offer you a H1 status then you'll be fine. Though apparently, things are also hard for NCLEX certified nurses to get a job in the US. Well, based on my opinion, the recession is a factor. Although hospital is part of the health care system, it is also a business. With things going on like this, you can do the math. Also another consideration is that, of course being in US, labor dept. would DEFINITELY prioritize LPR's or Citizens to fill in the job.

    I have a friend who knows a head director of a hospital in SOCAL, he told him that right now, its really hard for them to hire nurses from abroad. He also mentioned that they (the hospital) usually get / hire their nurses from a certified and reputable agent that is based in the Philippines. Who are the agents you may ask, I don't know. Though please don't take this as a discouraging information for your side, you already have a leverage, that is you are in the US already. Just be careful though if some hospital wants to hire you, its always best to hire a reputable immigrant attorney to represent in your behalf. Good Luck




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  • pushkarw
    12-21 01:50 PM
    The omni-bus has come and gone! The MILLION dollar drive is a long term strategy. It aims to give IV enough funds to steamroll ahead. It will help IV become pro-active. Every time there is a ray of hope, IV has to come to us for money. A MILLION dollars will ensure that IV does not have to do that. We are nearly 30,000 members and not enough are contributing. The MILLION dollar drive was about one-time contributions of $250 (mind you all contributions are valuable) to reach the magic figure of a million dollars. IV needs the money to become more powerful.

    What is that "Million $$$ drive". I did contrubute to omini bus 30K drive. But I havent heard of this drive?




    mhathi
    05-16 11:19 AM
    I have called all the members identified on the thread. They
    were all nice to talk to and most of them said that they were
    receiving a lot of calls regarding these bills. Many completed my
    request for me :D

    Let's all call and make these bills a reality.

    P.S. I also called Sen. Menendez regarding the Murray amendment but
    had to leave a voicemail.




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    10-09 10:35 AM
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